A Different PSA

Krissa Lox

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Like the last PSA thread, this post is only intended to provide support for people dealing with current conflicts in the subject matter, not trying to incite a political or philosophical debate or endorse any specific position beyond pointing out things that can clearly be called false according to scripture or other publicly verifiable sources.

LIke the last one, if you have no idea what I'm talking about here, then that's probably a good thing and hopefully something you don't have to worry about. Although it's hard to be 100% certain in saying anything these days, I think this is something more of a financial/misinformation scam rather than having as much potential for violence as the Qanon stuff did.

Ok, so....

Anglo-Saxons were not the progenitors of classical European culture. That was Greco-Roman, and you can get God's expressed thoughts on that culture from the writings of Paul.

The founding of America was very literally an intentional divorcement of American colonists from European culture to create their own original state and culture in deference to their personal understanding of God's Word. You can get most if not all the writings of the founding fathers plus a lot of historical documentation free at Gutenberg.org to know their thoughts and intentions for yourself to not have to rely on what other people want to tell you they meant.

The Constitution does have some basis in Greco-Roman philosophy, but Greco-Roman philosophy is not the same thing as Greco-Roman culture, and the two were often at odds with each other to the point of philosophers often getting run out of town because they advocated more morality than leadership or the common population wanted to adhere to. Again, many writings and historical documentation of the times can be found at Gutenberg.org for independent verification.

So, anyone trying to advocate that "true American culture" is an extension of classical European culture rather than being an outright rejection of it is either too historically/culturally illiterate to be a wise choice to give your support to, or they're intentionally trying to scam people for personal gain, or they're doing some sort of weird trojan horse thing trying to get policies passed by misinforming people to make them think they will serve the opposite purpose of what they actually do.

Because classical European culture historically leads to the very concerns of immorality and socialism (or serfdom) and degradation of both political and private life that many conservative Christians fear today, so what argument can be made that re-embracing that culture instead of holding our ground that the founding fathers secured for us as a separate and unique nation under God is going to lead to a good and right and pro-American result?

While Western Christian culture can take some pride in having several centuries of history professing Christ as its Savior which has undoubtedly brought it some benefits, at the same time there must remain a remembrance with both some fear and humility that Western civilization did not start with Christ, and its original rejected "gods" will probably always be trying to take it back.

And so it is likely just as true with Christianity as with politics that "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance." The Bible tells us so in many places with its warnings to always be on guard against the devil, even after - perhaps especially after - we are saved. And just because you think you might see the devil's presence working among your opposition, doesn't mean he hasn't infiltrated among your own as well.

And as a lesser side note...

"Anglo-Saxon" is probably not the most gainful or accurate choice of ethno-historical term to use in certain contexts I see it coming up in lately. Probably not the same level of pressing theological or philosophical concern as the other issues since people are more likely to just tune it out rather than go off on weird tangents with it, so I won't rant about it here. Just be aware that misusing that term might become a stumbling block to being understood correctly.
 
And as a lesser side note...

"Anglo-Saxon" is probably not the most gainful or accurate choice of ethno-historical term to use in certain contexts I see it coming up in lately. Probably not the same level of pressing theological or philosophical concern as the other issues since people are more likely to just tune it out rather than go off on weird tangents with it, so I won't rant about it here. Just be aware that misusing that term might become a stumbling block to being understood correctly.

Though, in the interests of lightening up a bit, I will admit there is some difficulty in resisting the temptation toward some snarky speculation about what Anglo-Saxon "classical" culture might entail.

Well, they did have Beowulf I guess, so that's something, but somehow I get the impression that that's not really what's being meant in a lot of the discussions I'm seeing. Though admittedly, I can see some of these advocates fitting in well with mead hall chieftain culture, but I don't really think that's what they're trying to accomplish.
 
Fortunately there has been strong bi-partisan confirmation that there is little interest in pursuing an Anglo-Saxon heritage movement, so at least our government can manage to agree on that much.

As one prominent commentator noted of the rejection, "It was the saddest day for Anglo-Saxons since 1066."
 
Something positive to note, it seems when personally talking to people about their concerns versus just listening to self-appointed influencers who claim to either represent (and collect money from or promote advertising to) or oppose them (to collect money from or display advertising to their opponents), most of them seem to be confusing the term "Anglo-Saxon" with "Anglican" and what they are really worried about is the diminution of Protestant values in American government and society, which is a very different thing from the white supremacy narrative that is often the knee-jerk reactionary accusation made.

The upside to this is that I don't think there's nearly as much anti-Black sentiment from this group as is assumed. For the most part, the Black church is pretty well regarded in Protestant communities and what prejudices may come up in appearance seem more the generalized prosperity gospel type of if you're not doing well it must be because you're not properly walking with God rather than being specifically racially-motivated. Which is not right either, but a whole different ballgame than white superiority is.

So while I think Christians of all denominations should be vocally critical of actual racism where it exists, because we all come from the same dust God crafted into Adam and Jesus gave Himself for all, I think we also need to maintain the temperance to not instinctually label things as racism when they might not actually be. Some people lack the educational framework to communicate their ideas concisely and effectively, but that doesn't make the ideas themselves without value or legitimacy to be worth taking the time to understand.

As Romans 15:1 admonishes the strong to help bear the infirmities of the weak, I think that applies to intellectual and educational strengths too, not just physical strength. People who have not had the same educational opportunities as others should not be trivially dismissed or commanded around or pushed aside in arrogance just because others feel they "know better." And when people don't know the difference between "Anglo-Saxon" and "Anglican," I think it's pretty safe to diagnose a big part of the problem as having some root in educational inequity, in which case it should be the place of those who are more educated to try to bridge the gap with respect and sincerity, not exploit or ignore it.

Romans 15:1-7
15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
15:2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.
15:3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.
15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
15:5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15:7 Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God.
 
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