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    Separation of Church and State

    Never had a triple post before Only clicked once...
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    Separation of Church and State

    If you read what I wrote, you'll see that I never said kids weren't influenced at all by schools, or by teachers. Every experience people go through affects them in some way, even into adulthood, though moreso as children. Parents are a much bigger part of their Children's lives than their...
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    Separation of Church and State

    It's not the job of public schools to teach extremely important life facts. Children get their beliefs and morals from friends and family, not from teachers, and thats how it should be. Are you suggesting the federal government should be forcibly converting its citizens to Christianity? Aside...
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    Separation of Church and State

    The problem is that its not just YOUR government. It belongs to everyone who lives here; Christian, Atheist, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu... This is an extremely diverse nation. I honestly can't understand why Christians are so opposed to seperation between religion and government. You all worship pray...
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    Whoah I agree with the vatican!

    Those are all compliments of the Christian religion, I didn't say they disliked Christianity. Jefferson followed the teachings of Jesus the same way people follow the teachings of Ghandi or Martin Luther King, and with good reason. He wouldn't be classified as a Christian however, not in today's...
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    Whoah I agree with the vatican!

    I disagree completely with this statement. Many of the founding fathers of this country were in fact not Christian at all, including people like Jefferson who wrote the declaration of independace, Ben Franklin and others. Huge pieces of Christian doctrine, such as the 10 commandments are not...
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    Gay Episcopal Bishop

    I'm curious how you are so confident that it's not genetic, my belief has always been that there's no way to know for sure. Maybe it's determined from birth, maybe it depends on your experiances and upbringing, maybe some of both. I'm not going to jump on and call one outright lies, I like to...
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    Whoah I agree with the vatican!

    Please, not the "America, love it or leave it argument". People disagree in this country, I think Clinton was 100 times the president Bush is, you think the opposite. Thats politics, thats why we have different parties. Nobody was telling Republicans to leave the country just because they hated...
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    Gay Episcopal Bishop

    Is this a joke or are you seriously that out of touch with reality? You think people can just on a whim suddenly change their entire sexual orientation? Why would anyone choose to actually be gay? With the persecution they face in this country. Or why would anyone choose to be attracted to...
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    Whoah I agree with the vatican!

    I've never seen anything that indicates that. The AIDS thing used to have a little truth in the 70's and early 80's, now it's just a stereotype. Cite a specific unbiased statistic and your argument would hold water. I agree, freedom of religion should protect pastors from performing this...
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    Whoah I agree with the vatican!

    Well you're right about the emancipation proclimation, the 14th amendment and the Emancipation Proclimation are totally seperate though. The amendments to the constitution weren't made until after the war. And yes it is different than the situation with homosexuals today, though it is also...
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    Whoah I agree with the vatican!

    I think Bob Dylan said it best, "The Times They are A-Changin'". America, and the world is becoming more tolerant as time goes on. Blacks were given equal rights, women were given equal rights, and homosexuals will soon be given equal rights as well. Conservatives opposed the 14th and 15th...
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    What the world think of America

    Well if you think we're the only country who ever helps others you're probably not watching or reading the news. (Either that or watching Fox news, which is pretty much the same thing). Pretty much all of western Europe, Japan, Canada, Australia for sure have given often, both monetary aid and...
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    Wise up.

    I just saw this post at its full length, and only skimmed it. I can pretty much guess at most of the posts, standard Christian rhetoric we've discussed before, and don't have time to specifically go through and counter. I noticed some attempts at proving your faith with evidence though, which I...
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    10 Objections to Christianity and How to Respond

    But wouldn't you be stronger if you did all that without depending on Christ? Ok so pacific islanders who existed for 18 centuries without knowing anything at all about Christianity weren't seeking hard enough? They obviously were curious about religion, and were seeking their own gods in the...
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    10 Objections to Christianity and How to Respond

    This is terrible reasoning, he says Christians are strong because they depend on Jesus; but fails to say why. The next paragraph doesn't really answer the question, how does depending on Jesus make you strong? I think this criticism still holds up. This answer is pretty vague, what does it mean...
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    HomoSexual Debate

    Issues are not black and white. Morals are not black and white. The bible, and indeed many religious laws, try to make everything appear black and white. A simple question as to whether something is right or wrong, probably shouldn't be a simple yes or no answer. The world just isn't that way...
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    HomoSexual Debate

    Wow using the extreme example of murder, how very unique of you. Murder harms and involves others. Homosexuality or prayer do not. They are very different and cannot be compared. I was hoping people would see that without my having to specifically point it out. So do you hate Hinduism, atheism...
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    HomoSexual Debate

    I think you sort of missed my point, its sort of hard to explain. My point wasn't that just because they dont believe in the bible means that it isn't still immoral to you, it was that it doesn't matter. I think it's safe to say most openly gay people aren't Christian. So they're all already...
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